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Pas de titre bonus sur les \u00e9ditions de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque \u2014 ni au Japon, ni ailleurs. R.E.M. faisait les choses sobrement : 11 morceaux, pas un de plus.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">L&rsquo;album sort le 12 mars 91 en CD, cassette et vinyle sur Warner Bros Records.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">1991, c&rsquo;est une ann\u00e9e dingue pour le rock. U2 se r\u00e9invente avec \u00ab\u00a0Achtung Baby\u00a0\u00bb, Metallica sort son \u00ab\u00a0Black Album\u00a0\u00bb, les Guns N&rsquo; Roses l\u00e2chent les deux volumes de \u00ab\u00a0Use Your Illusion\u00a0\u00bb, et en septembre \u2014 six mois apr\u00e8s R.E.M. \u2014 un trio de Seattle nomm\u00e9 Nirvana va tout faire basculer avec \u00ab\u00a0Nevermind\u00a0\u00bb. Le grunge arrive, et R.E.M. vient de prouver qu&rsquo;on peut \u00eatre num\u00e9ro 1 sans jouer dans la m\u00eame cour.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">En France, la sc\u00e8ne alternative explose : Noir D\u00e9sir sort \u00ab\u00a0Du ciment sous les plaines\u00a0\u00bb, Mano Negra d\u00e9barque avec \u00ab\u00a0King of Bongo\u00a0\u00bb et son concert mythique \u00e0 la D\u00e9fense, et Les N\u00e9gresses Vertes encha\u00eenent avec \u00ab\u00a0Famille nombreuse\u00a0\u00bb. C\u00f4t\u00e9 charts fran\u00e7ais, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;album \u00ab\u00a0L&rsquo;autre\u2026\u00a0\u00bb de Myl\u00e8ne Farmer qui domine les ventes depuis mai 1991.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">C&rsquo;est aussi une ann\u00e9e marqu\u00e9e par la fin de la guerre du Golfe en f\u00e9vrier, et en France, par la disparition de Serge Gainsbourg quelques jours avant la sortie d&rsquo;Out of Time. Au cin\u00e9ma, on va voir \u00ab\u00a0Danse avec les loups\u00a0\u00bb, \u00ab\u00a0Terminator 2\u00a0\u00bb, et un petit film fran\u00e7ais compl\u00e8tement barr\u00e9 : \u00ab\u00a0Delicatessen\u00a0\u00bb de Caro et Jeunet. \u00ab\u00a0Cyrano de Bergerac\u00a0\u00bb rafle 10 C\u00e9sars.<\/span>[\/vc_column_text][\/toggle][toggle color=\u00a0\u00bbDefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag_functionality=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb title=\u00a0\u00bbLa story de R.E.M.\u00a0\u00bb][vc_column_text el_class=\u00a0\u00bbw1 18px\u00a0\u00bb]<b>Manu : Out of Time, ce n\u2019est pas seulement l\u2019histoire d\u2019un disque devenu culte. C\u2019est aussi la trajectoire d\u2019un groupe qui, arriv\u00e9 au sommet, va refuser les codes de la pop music. Et \u00e7a, en 1991, c\u2019est presque une provocation, Olivia. Mais comment ces quatre types d\u2019Athens, en G\u00e9orgie, en sont arriv\u00e9s l\u00e0, presque sans le vouloir vraiment ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Pour comprendre Out of Time, il ne faut surtout pas le consid\u00e9rer comme un \u00e9v\u00e9nement isol\u00e9. Ce disque n\u2019est pas un point de d\u00e9part. C\u2019est un point d\u2019aboutissement. Presque un accident de parcours\u2026 mais un accident parfaitement logique.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">R.E.M., \u00e0 la fin des ann\u00e9es 80, c\u2019est d\u00e9j\u00e0 une anomalie. Ils ont surv\u00e9cu \u00e0 l\u2019underground sans s\u2019y fossiliser. Ils ont sign\u00e9 chez une major sans devenir des rock idols \u00e0 guitares. Ils ont grandi lentement, m\u00e9thodiquement, album apr\u00e8s album, sans tube \u00e9vident, sans scandale, sans mythe autodestructeur. Marcus Gray, leur biographe, parle d\u2019un groupe qui a avanc\u00e9 par \u00ab \u00e9rosion \u00bb plut\u00f4t que par explosion. R.E.M. n\u2019a jamais forc\u00e9 les portes : elles ont fini par c\u00e9der toutes seules.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tout commence \u00e0 Athens, en G\u00e9orgie, \u00e0 la fin des ann\u00e9es 70. Michael Stipe rencontre Peter Buck dans un magasin de disques. Buck y travaille. Et Stipe y ach\u00e8te\u2026 exactement les disques que Buck se mettait de c\u00f4t\u00e9 pour lui-m\u00eame :&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ils croisent Mike Mills et Bill Berry, deux amis d\u2019enfance, \u00e9tudiants comme eux. Il n\u2019y a pas de plan de carri\u00e8re, pas de vision strat\u00e9gique. Stipe le dira lui-m\u00eame : \u00ab Il n\u2019y avait pas de grand plan derri\u00e8re tout \u00e7a. \u00bb Leur premier concert a lieu dans une ancienne \u00e9glise \u00e9piscopale, pour l\u2019anniversaire d\u2019un ami.&nbsp; Ils h\u00e9sitent sur des noms franchement improbables : Twisted Kites, Cans of Piss, Negro Wives ; avant de choisir R.E.M., au hasard dans un dictionnaire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Je vous en donne donc la d\u00e9finition, car c\u2019est souvent une question au Trivial Pursuit :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cREM, Rapid Eye Movement\u201d (mouvement oculaire rapide) est le nom donn\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tape du sommeil paradoxal durant laquelle les globes oculaires s&rsquo;agitent rapidement alors que le dormeur r\u00eave<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Tr\u00e8s vite, ils l\u00e2chent les \u00e9tudes, prennent la route dans un vieux van bleu avec deux dollars par jour pour manger. Bill Berry r\u00e9sumera \u00e7a plus tard, avec son sens de la formule :<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00ab Quand vous vivez dans un van ensemble pendant cinq ans, vous devenez vraiment <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">tr\u00e8s proches<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u00bb.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Ils tournent dans un Sud des \u00c9tats-Unis o\u00f9 le rock alternatif n\u2019a m\u00eame pas encore de circuit. Les salles sont petites. Les cachets inexistants. Mais le bouche-\u00e0-oreille fonctionne. R.E.M. devient ce groupe dont on parle sans trop savoir comment le classer : trop \u00e9trange pour la radio commerciale. Trop m\u00e9lodique pour rester confidentiel.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pendant l&rsquo;\u00e9t\u00e9 1981, R.E.M. enregistre son premier single, Radio Free Europe. Malgr\u00e9 son tirage limit\u00e9, le single re\u00e7oit de tr\u00e8s bonnes critiques ; il est cit\u00e9 parmi les dix meilleurs singles de l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e par le New York Times. Je vous propose d\u2019\u00e9couter une version live de 1984 enregistr\u00e9 \u00e0 Rock City, Nottingham :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 REM \u201cRadio Free Europe\u201d (original version)<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2sUD93bVPUo\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2sUD93bVPUo<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">En 1983, leur 1er album Murmur est chaleureusement accueilli par la critique. Le magazine am\u00e9ricain Rolling Stone en fait son album de l\u2019ann\u00e9e, devant Thriller de Michael Jackson, et le disque atteint la 36e place du classement des albums du magazine Billboard. Les ventes ne sont pas encore incroyables mais quelque chose de pr\u00e9cieux s\u2019installe d\u00e9j\u00e0 : la cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9. R.E.M. fait alors sa premi\u00e8re apparition \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision nationale dans l&rsquo;\u00e9mission Late Night with David Letterman. Nous sommes le 6 octobre 1983 :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 REM \u201cSo Central Rain\u201d Live on Letterman<\/b><b><br \/>\n<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dW62Q0TTgS0\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dW62Q0TTgS0<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : R.E.M. ne devient donc pas c\u00e9l\u00e8bre du jour au lendemain.&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Non, mais le groupe devient une valeur s\u00fbre. Un groupe qu\u2019on va voir sur sc\u00e8ne sans conna\u00eetre les chansons. Un groupe qu\u2019on ach\u00e8te sur recommandation, pas sur un tube. Sans hit, mais avec une r\u00e9putation. Sans image impos\u00e9e, mais avec une identit\u00e9 tr\u00e8s forte.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ce n\u2019est donc pas une success story classique, c\u2019est une addition de temp\u00e9raments improbables. Michael Stipe \u00e9crit des textes opaques, \u00e9motionnels, presque r\u00e9tifs \u00e0 toute explication. Il refuse tr\u00e8s t\u00f4t de jouer au frontman conqu\u00e9rant. Il est le visage du groupe, mais rarement son chef. Peter Buck pense la musique comme un archiviste passionn\u00e9. Mike Mills est le plus \u201cpop\u201d du groupe : la m\u00e9lodie, l\u2019harmonie, l\u2019efficacit\u00e9. La colonne vert\u00e9brale discr\u00e8te, c\u2019est lui. Enfin, Bill Berry, m\u00e9thodique et terrien, transforme les id\u00e9es abstraites en quelque chose de concret<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ensemble, ils forment un groupe sans leader \u00e9vident, sans ego spectaculaire. Ce qui, paradoxalement, les rend presque d\u00e9j\u00e0 suspects dans l\u2019histoire du rock ! Ils deviennent donc cultes avant d\u2019\u00eatre riches.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Et la presse identifie le potentiel du groupe :&nbsp; le magazine Rolling Stone les met en couverture du num\u00e9ro de d\u00e9cembre 1987 et d\u00e9clare tout simplement R.E.M. \u00ab meilleur groupe de rock&rsquo;n&rsquo;roll am\u00e9ricain\u201d !<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Pourtant, R.E.M. se m\u00e9fie profond\u00e9ment de la logique du tube. Chaque fois qu\u2019ils s\u2019en approchent, ils bifurquent. M\u00eame quand l\u2019album Document explose avec le single The One I Love, en 1987.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 R.E.M. &#8211; <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The One I love<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=j7oQEPfe-O8\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=j7oQEPfe-O8<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">L\u2019album suivant, Green, sort en 1988 et se vend \u00e0 4 millions d&rsquo;exemplaires. Pour promouvoir l&rsquo;album, le groupe se lance dans une \u00e9norme tourn\u00e9e, techniquement assez compliqu\u00e9e, incluant des projections de diapositives et de films sur sc\u00e8ne. Quelques mois plus tard, le groupe est rinc\u00e9 et d\u00e9cide de faire un break. Quelque chose se crispe. Le statut de \u201cplus grand groupe alternatif du monde\u201d commence \u00e0 ressembler \u00e0 un costume trop \u00e9troit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : C\u2019est l\u00e0 que Out of Time commence \u00e0 se dessiner ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Exactement. Out of Time na\u00eet d\u2019une fatigue. Pas une fatigue cr\u00e9ative, plut\u00f4t une fatigue existentielle : celle de devoir \u00eatre R.E.M. en permanence. De devoir incarner quelque chose. Plut\u00f4t que de livrer un disque de plus, ils d\u00e9cident de rebattre les cartes, de redistribuer les r\u00f4les. Michael Stipe accepte de ne plus \u00eatre la figure centrale. Mike Mills \u00e9crit davantage. Peter Buck se met en retrait. Bill Berry cesse d\u2019\u00eatre le moteur rythmique syst\u00e9matique. Les chansons ne sont pens\u00e9es comme des objets autonomes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : C\u2019est plut\u00f4t un choix risqu\u00e9 \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0 de leur carri\u00e8re.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Totalement. Et ils le savent. R.E.M. envisage tr\u00e8s s\u00e9rieusement la possibilit\u00e9 que Out of Time se vende moins bien. Moins de guitares, pas de grande tourn\u00e9e, des chansons difficiles \u00e0 cat\u00e9goriser : sur le papier, c\u2019est un contre-sens commercial. Mais ce contre-sens va tomber exactement au bon moment. Au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 90, le public est pr\u00eat pour autre chose. Le rock commence \u00e0 se fatiguer de lui-m\u00eame. Soudain, l\u2019ambigu\u00eft\u00e9, la douceur, le doute redeviennent d\u00e9sirables.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Puis arrive 4 semaines avant la sortie de \u201cOut of time\u201d LE morceau qui va tout changer : Losing my religion.&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> R.E.M. &#8211;<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Losing my religion : <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">quelques secondes de mandoline<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">D\u00e9j\u00e0, il faut clarifier quelque chose : ce n\u2019est pas une chanson religieuse. C\u2019est une expression du Sud des \u00c9tats-Unis qui signifie \u201cperdre patience\u201d, \u201c\u00eatre \u00e0 bout\u201d. Mais \u00e9videmment, chacun y projette ce qu\u2019il traverse : rupture amoureuse, crise existentielle, doute spirituel\u2026 C\u2019est une chanson-\u00e9ponge. R.E.M. n\u2019y croyait pas du tout commercialement parce que trop lente, trop bizarre, trop peu d\u00e9monstrative. Et pourtant : num\u00e9ro 4 du Billboard, rotation massive sur MTV, un clip devenu iconique.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Et puis il y a Shiny Happy People ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Oui, et c\u2019est un autre moment charni\u00e8re. Shiny Happy People est sorti comme second single en 1991 et devient un hit pop imm\u00e9diat, avec Kate Pierson des B-52\u2019s au chant, atteignant le top 10 aux \u00c9tats-Unis et au Royaume-Uni. Un vrai tube \u00ab feel-good \u00bb dans une carri\u00e8re souvent prise tr\u00e8s au s\u00e9rieux. Pourtant Shiny Happy People n\u2019est pas une ode \u00e0 l\u2019h\u00e9donisme, au contraire. C\u2019est une r\u00e9f\u00e9rence toute en ironie \u00e0 la propagande chinoise autour du massacre de la place Tiananmen, survenu en 1989.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">On s\u2019\u00e9coute la version live de l\u2019\u00e9mission TV Saturday Night Live en 1991 :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 R.E.M. &#8211; Shiny Happy People<\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=18nsXa4MZAM\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=18nsXa4MZAM<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Donc \u00e7a y est, REM cartonne, ils passent en boucle \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9 nationale.&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Mais la critique, elle en pense quoi ?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : \u00c0 sa sortie, Out of Time est globalement tr\u00e8s bien accueilli, mais pas unanimement adul\u00e9 non plus. Le Chicago Tribune parle du disque le plus coh\u00e9rent du groupe, saluant une \u00e9criture intime malgr\u00e9 des arrangements amples. Q Magazine \u00e9voque un groupe plus r\u00e9fl\u00e9chi, plus adulte, mais toujours aventureux. M\u00eame la presse britannique, toujours m\u00e9fiante envers le rock am\u00e9ricain trop s\u00fbr de lui, adopte le disque avec un plaisir \u00e9vident. Les Anglais adorent l\u2019id\u00e9e qu\u2019un groupe devienne immense sans devenir bruyant. Ce qui frappe les critiques, c\u2019est la coh\u00e9rence paradoxale de l\u2019album : un disque sans centre, mais jamais confus.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">D\u2019autres sont plus r\u00e9serv\u00e9s. Entertainment Weekly regrette un manque d\u2019\u00e9nergie par rapport aux albums pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents, l\u00e0 o\u00f9 le Los Angeles Times souligne au contraire la tension entre morceaux tr\u00e8s accessibles et plages plus myst\u00e9rieuses.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ce d\u00e9saccord critique dit beaucoup du disque : Out of Time est un album qui d\u00e9place R.E.M. juste assez pour d\u00e9sorienter ceux qui voulaient une suite logique, et s\u00e9duire tous les autres.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Malgr\u00e9 les doutes du groupe, le public suit beaucoup plus que pr\u00e9vu : Out of Time devient num\u00e9ro 1 aux \u00c9tats-Unis, au Royaume-Uni, en Allemagne.&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Il se vend \u00e0 pr\u00e8s de 12 millions d\u2019exemplaires dans le monde. R.E.M. passe du statut de grand groupe respect\u00e9 \u00e0 celui de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence culturelle globale. Et c\u2019est l\u00e0 que l\u2019histoire devient vraiment int\u00e9ressante : R.E.M. n\u2019exploite pas ce succ\u00e8s comme on l\u2019attendrait.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pas de tourn\u00e9e mondiale, pas de triomphe sc\u00e9nique. Presque une forme de retrait volontaire. Out of Time devient donc un succ\u00e8s subi, presque embarrassant que d\u00e9crit Michael Stipe :<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cLe succ\u00e8s ne se ressentait pas comme une victoire. Il donnait plut\u00f4t l\u2019impression de quelque chose dont il fallait s\u2019\u00e9chapper. \u201c<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Et le succ\u00e8s ne s\u2019arr\u00eate pas l\u00e0 : Out of Time offre \u00e0 R.E.M. sept nominations aux Grammy Awards de 1992 : le plus grand nombre de nominations pour un seul artiste cette ann\u00e9e-l\u00e0 ! Le groupe en remportera trois : le \u00ab meilleur album de musique alternative \u00bb et deux pour Losing My Religion.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">C\u00e9line Dion remet le Grammy \u00e0 REM 1992-02-25 &#8211; 34th Grammy Awards (Best Pop Performance Award for Losing My Religion)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LitCDShqETg\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LitCDShqETg<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00ab Nous tenons d\u2019abord \u00e0 remercier toutes les \u00e9quipes de Warner Brothers, Lenny Waronker, Mo Austin, ainsi que toutes les \u00e9quipes aux \u00c9tats-Unis et \u00e0 l\u2019international.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nous souhaitons aussi rappeler l\u2019importance de l\u2019inscription et du vote aux \u00c9tats-Unis.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Des combats essentiels sont en jeu: la lutte contre le mal-logement, la recherche contre le Sida, la crise \u00e9conomique, et l\u2019acc\u00e8s \u00e0 un syst\u00e8me de sant\u00e9 national.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Inscrivez-vous. Votez. Pour que chacune et chacun puisse faire entendre sa voix. Merci. \u00bb<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>Manu : Out of Time, c\u2019est aussi un geste politique fort.&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Aux \u00c9tats-Unis, au moment de la sortie, R.E.M. accepte une proposition assez in\u00e9dite : utiliser le packaging du CD pour imprimer une p\u00e9tition politique qui soutient le Motor Voter Act, une loi destin\u00e9e \u00e0 faciliter l\u2019inscription des jeunes sur les listes \u00e9lectorales. L\u2019objectif est clair : faire voter une g\u00e9n\u00e9ration enti\u00e8re, et au passage affaiblir le tr\u00e8s envahissant Parents Music Resource Center, qui milite alors activement pour la censure musicale. R.E.M. s\u2019engage publiquement dans cette campagne et appara\u00eet dans des messages de sensibilisation. Le r\u00e9sultat d\u00e9passe toutes les attentes. Trois semaines apr\u00e8s la sortie de Out of Time, Rock the Vote re\u00e7oit plus de 10 000 p\u00e9titions sign\u00e9es. Un mois plus tard, elles sont amen\u00e9es au S\u00e9nat dans un chariot de supermarch\u00e9. La loi sera adopt\u00e9e en 1993, sous Bill Clinton, et appliqu\u00e9e en 1995.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : D\u2019ailleurs je ne sais pas si vous connaissez le podcast \u00ab Ninety-nine percent invisible (99% Invisible en fran\u00e7ais) \u00bb ? Pour eux, Out of Time est carr\u00e9ment le \u00ab disque le plus politiquement significatif de l\u2019histoire am\u00e9ricaine\u201d ! Bon et avec le recul, qu\u2019est-ce que Out of Time dit de R.E.M. ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Olivia : Que c\u2019est un groupe qui a toujours avanc\u00e9 en se d\u00e9calant. Out of Time n\u2019est pas un disque de conqu\u00eate. C\u2019est un disque de d\u00e9placement. Il raconte comment un groupe arrive \u00e0 un point o\u00f9 continuer tout droit n\u2019a plus aucun int\u00e9r\u00eat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pour notre g\u00e9n\u00e9ration, c\u2019est souvent un album qui est entr\u00e9 dans nos vies sans frapper : un clip vu sur MTV par hasard, une chanson entendue sans savoir qui chantait.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">C\u2019est un album qui accompagne les moments flous : les transitions, les zones grises, les p\u00e9riodes o\u00f9 on ne sait pas encore tr\u00e8s bien qui on est en train de devenir. Out of Time ne donne pas de r\u00e9ponses, il autorise le doute. Et c\u2019est pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment pour \u00e7a qu\u2019il vieillit aussi bien.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mais derri\u00e8re cette douceur apparente, il y a une le\u00e7on \u00e0 retenir : parce qu\u2019au moment exact o\u00f9 tout leur r\u00e9ussissait, R.E.M. a choisi de ne pas capitaliser. Pas de tourn\u00e9e, pas de formule gagnante \u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9ter. Juste un pas de c\u00f4t\u00e9. Et trente-cinq ans plus tard, si c\u2019est devenu un classique, c\u2019est peut-\u00eatre justement parce qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;a jamais essay\u00e9 de l&rsquo;\u00eatre.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">D&rsquo;ailleurs, pour finir, on va vous laisser avec une version qui r\u00e9sume tout \u00e7a : <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Losing My Religion<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, MTV Unplugged, 1991. R.E.M. en pleine ascension, en acoustique, avec les cordes de l&rsquo;Atlanta Symphony Orchestra. La chanson est mise \u00e0 nu.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 Losing my Religion (MTV Unplugged)<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2JAjC7BSqAA\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2JAjC7BSqAA<\/span><\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><b>Manu : Fun fact sur ce Unplugged : il n&rsquo;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 tourn\u00e9 \u00e0 New York comme la plupart des autres. MTV a en fait pos\u00e9 ses cam\u00e9ras \u00e0 Madison, en G\u00e9orgie \u2014 \u00e0 une trentaine de kilom\u00e8tres d&rsquo;Athens. R.E.M. jouait quasiment \u00e0 domicile. Et pour le dixi\u00e8me anniversaire de MTV, c&rsquo;\u00e9tait un joli symbole : la cha\u00eene venait \u00e0 eux, pas l&rsquo;inverse. Ecoutez-l\u00e0 c&rsquo;est une petite merveille.&nbsp;<\/b>[\/vc_column_text][\/toggle][toggle color=\u00a0\u00bbDefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag_functionality=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb title=\u00a0\u00bbLe making-of de \u00ab\u00a0Out of Time\u00ab\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0][vc_column_text el_class=\u00a0\u00bbw1 18px\u00a0\u00bb]<b>Manu : Bon, maintenant qu&rsquo;on a parl\u00e9 de ce que l&rsquo;album raconte, on va parler de comment il sonne. L&rsquo;album sort en 1991, \u00e7a fait d\u00e9j\u00e0 dix ans que REM. existe. Six albums et des milliers de concerts. \u00c0 ce stade-l\u00e0, ils n&rsquo;ont plus rien \u00e0 prouver. Greg, tu t&rsquo;es refait la discographie pour nous : alors, verdict ?&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">J\u2019ai test\u00e9 pour vous les amis : je me suis fait les 6 premiers albums de REM.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Alors pour moi\u2026. c\u2019est du REM du d\u00e9but \u00e0 la fin, ils avaient d\u00e9j\u00e0 leur son au premier album, y\u2019a pas un morceau o\u00f9 j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 surpris en mode \u00ab ah tiens c\u2019est vraiment diff\u00e9rent \u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">En 10 ans il y a quand m\u00eame une petite \u00e9volution, notamment au niveau de la production, de la voix qui sort du mix pour se placer devant. De la reverb qui baisse un peu\u2026&nbsp; mais \u00e7a c\u2019est la mode de l\u2019\u00e9poque.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bref on va s\u2019\u00e9couter un petit Medley des 6 premiers albums pour d\u00e9finir ce style.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><i>INSERT \u2014 Medley 6 albums<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00c7a va vous \u00eates pas trop perdus, vous avez reconnu le groupe ?&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Alors justement, si on devait mettre une \u00e9tiquette sur ce son-l\u00e0, on appellerait \u00e7a comment ?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dans les magazines et les classifications d\u2019experts tr\u00e8s pointus on parle soit de :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Coll\u00e8ge rock<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> : l\u2019anc\u00eatre du rock alternatif. Le nom vient des radios universitaires (college radios) qui contrairement aux grosses radios qui passent du Phil collins, du toto ou du Hard rock, les radios universitaires passent des groupes ind\u00e9pendants, des groupes locaux, un peu plus \u00ab intellos \u00bb<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jangle rock<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> : Jangle \u00e7a veut dire gling, clang, c\u2019est un onomatop\u00e9e m\u00e9tallique<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dans les ann\u00e9es 60 c\u2019est les Byrds et les Beatles qu\u2019on peut parfois qualifier de Jangele.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dans les 80\u2019s c\u2019est des groupes qui rejettent l\u2019agressivit\u00e9 du punk et les synth\u00e9tiseurs massifs des 80\u2019s pour revenir \u00e0 des structures pop classiques avec des guitares limpides avec pas beaucoup de disto.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Y\u2019a des milliards de groupes ind\u00e9 \u00e0 d\u00e9couvrir mais on peut citer 10 000 maniacs, les Smith, un peu plus tard les premiers albums des Rambrants ou des Cramberries.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Qu\u2019est ce qu\u2019on entend dans ces premiers albums de REM :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Des chansons mid tempo, moiti\u00e9 rock, parfois folk.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">On sent l\u2019influence post punk\/new wave avec des guitares avec un effet chorus.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dans les premiers albums on comprend pas bien les paroles, c\u2019est pas hyper audible, y\u2019a beaucoup de reverb.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Au niveau du mixage on entend surtout la guitare jangle, la voix et la batterie sont sous mix\u00e9<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Moi que j\u2019aime dans le groupe c\u2019est les lignes de basses, qui sont toujours g\u00e9niales et comme la guitare est aigu\u00eb : \u00e7a se compl\u00e8te vachement bien comme un contrepoint de Bach. Et \u00e7a d\u00e8s le premier album ils ont cette secret sauce\u2026&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Moi ce que j\u2019avais pas du tout capt\u00e9 chez REM c\u2019est \u00e0 quel point ils avaient influenc\u00e9 l\u2019indie rock \u00e0 venir, Kurt Cobain et Eddie Vedder,. D\u2019ailleurs ils sont tous potes, et Michael stipe est le parrain de Frances Cobain, la fille de Courtney Love et\u2026 Kurt Cobain !.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><i>INSERT \u2014 les liens entre rem et le grunge&nbsp;<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">so central rain 1984 -all apologies- Old man Kensey 1985<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : OK donc \u00e7a c&rsquo;est le son R.E.M. des ann\u00e9es 80. Et l\u00e0 en 91, avec <\/b><b><i>Out of Time<\/i><\/b><b>, qu&rsquo;est-ce qui change ? Pourquoi ils d\u00e9cident de tout chambouler ?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Les mecs veulent se surprendre, ils ont peur de s\u2019ennuyer et de faire un 7eme album identique, ils s\u2019interdisent donc de faire ce qu\u2019ils savent faire.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ils d\u00e9cident de changer d\u2019instruments, aller plus vers l\u2019acoustique, le guitariste va jouer de la mandoline, du banjo, de l\u2019acoustique, pour ne pas devenir un \u00ab guitar dick \u00bb&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">le bassiste va jouer des claviers et de l\u2019orgue, mais heureusement il fait toujours ses supers lignes de basses. le batteur fait de la basse et d\u2019autres percussions.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Coup de th\u00e9\u00e2tre\u2026. Ils d\u00e9cident de ne pas faire de tourn\u00e9e pour cet album, alors ils peuvent pousser la production sans r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir \u00e0 comment interpr\u00e9ter les morceaux sur sc\u00e8ne,&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : OK donc ils veulent se r\u00e9inventer, changer d&rsquo;instruments, ne pas tourner\u2026 Mais concr\u00e8tement, \u00e7a donne quoi en studio ? Parce que j&rsquo;imagine que produire un album comme \u00e7a, avec des mandolines, des cordes, des claviers, c&rsquo;est pas la m\u00eame cuisine que leurs disques d&rsquo;avant ?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">oui et non, ils commencent la pr\u00e9prod chez eux \u00e0 Athens. Les gars se retrouvent chez le producteur John Keane et ils vont enregistrer les d\u00e9mos.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">D\u00e9mos qui sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 bien bien proches des versions finales.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><i>INSERT \u2014 d\u00e9mo Shiny happy people<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hePG20KErAg&amp;list=PLh0uBk7V4ZilIbkC2nrB44wt0ndVKmu7R&amp;index=14\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hePG20KErAg&amp;list=PLh0uBk7V4ZilIbkC2nrB44wt0ndVKmu7R&amp;index=14<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Pour l\u2019enregistrement c\u2019est Scott Litt qui s\u2019y colle, il a d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait 2 albums avec eux et il en fera 3 en plus apr\u00e8s celui-l\u00e0.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00c7a se passe au bearsville studio \u00e0 Woodstock, dans l&rsquo;\u00c9tat de New-York carr\u00e9ment une grande grange, tout est en bois, c\u2019est dans la for\u00eat, c\u2019est calme, entre les prises ils se prom\u00e8nent dans la for\u00eat et Ils vont faire 3 albums ici.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ils restent environ 2 mois sur place, alors que normalement ils exp\u00e9dient les albums en 1 ou deux semaines. Pourquoi ?<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">parce que comme l\u2019album est acoustique ils prennent plus de temps \u00e0 trouver le bon son dans la pi\u00e8ce : d\u2019ailleurs la particularit\u00e9 de ce studio c\u2019est son acoustique donc ils prennent du temps.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Parce que c\u2019est plus un groupe \u00e0 4 instruments, il y a les mandolines, les claviers, les cordes. Ils couchent beaucoup plus de pistes et ils connaissent moins bien leur instruments.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Mixage<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">ils font le mixage \u00e0 Paisley Park, \u00e7a vous dit quelque chose ? C\u2019est le studio de Prince dans la banlieue de Minneapolis.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Une fois de plus, y\u2019a pas vraiment de distractions autour donc ils sont focus mixing. C\u2019est high tech, y\u2019a l\u2019ombre de prince qui plane, ils essayent d\u2019ailleurs de le croiser dans les couloirs mais \u00e7a n\u2019arrivera jamais.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A la phase de mix, logiquement,&nbsp; les chansons elles sont termin\u00e9es, on y touche plus, sinon \u00e7a veut dire qu\u2019on est en phase d\u2019enregistrement..<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mais eux, ils se prennent le luxe d\u2019ajouter des choses \u00e0 ce moment l\u00e0 :&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Kate Pierson la chanteuse des B52 (qui sont eux aussi d\u2019athens)&nbsp; vient poser sa voix sur \u00ab shiny happy people \u00bb elle a pour instruction de faire ce qu\u2019elle veut.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Ils ram\u00e8nent KRS one rapper sur le premier titre de l\u2019album. Ca marche mais c\u2019est surprenant de leur part.. Ptet qu\u2019il se sentent vieillir.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Manu : <\/b><b>Bon, on a parl\u00e9 du son de l&rsquo;album, de comment il a \u00e9t\u00e9 fabriqu\u00e9. Maintenant j&rsquo;ai envie qu&rsquo;on rentre vraiment dans le moteur. <\/b><b><i>Losing My Religion<\/i><\/b><b>, c&rsquo;est le morceau que tout le monde conna\u00eet par coeur, mais sur le papier y&rsquo;a rien qui va : pas de vrai refrain, une mandoline, un titre qui dure bien cinq minutes\u2026 Tout pour faire un flop. Greg, tu nous d\u00e9cortiques tout \u00e7a ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><i>INSERT \u2014 Multitrack<\/i><\/b> <b><i>Losing my religion, pour aller jusqu\u2019\u00e0 l\u2019overdose&nbsp;<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">On commence par ce petit riff de mandoline, le guitariste se rendra compte apr\u00e8s coup que \u00e7a lui fait penser \u00e0 merry christmas mister lawrence de ryuichi sakamoto, la BO de Furyo..<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Les gens parlent beaucoup de cette mandoline : moi je trouve que \u00e7a remplace la guitare Jangle rock sans trop nous bousculer\u2026 on \u00e9coute la mandoline comme \u00e7a on s\u2019en debarasse\u2026&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mais y\u2019a pas qu\u2019une Mandoline, y\u2019a des les guitares folk. Et l\u00e0 on se rend pas compte mais y\u2019a d\u00e9j\u00e0 au moins 6 pistes. tout est doubl\u00e9 droite gauche. ca fait un espace st\u00e9reo<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mais moi ce que j\u2019aime dans REM c&rsquo;est la basse.super ligne.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">On construit une batterie autour\u2026 des toms. \u00e9tonnant.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;caisse claire avec grosse reverb cra cra 80.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">les cordes qui claquent et qui mettent de la tension. <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">batterie parait simple mais c\u2019est trompeur&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dans le mix final<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">la voix est plac\u00e9e bien devant<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Beaucoup d\u2019espace entre tous les instruments<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Peu de reverbs artificielles, uniquement les reverberations des pi\u00e8ces o\u00f9 ils ont enregistr\u00e9,&nbsp; ce qui donne l\u2019impression \u00e0 l\u2019auditeur d\u2019\u00eatre au plus pr\u00e8s du groupe.&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Merci Greg. Et ce qui est dingue, c&rsquo;est que ce morceau \u00ab\u00a0qui a tout pour PAS marcher\u00a0\u00bb va devenir une esp\u00e8ce de mod\u00e8le. On parlait tout \u00e0 l&rsquo;heure de l&rsquo;influence de R.E.M. sur le grunge, mais&nbsp; <\/b><b><i>Out of Time<\/i><\/b><b> va aussi montrer \u00e0 toute une g\u00e9n\u00e9ration qu&rsquo;on peut faire du rock autrement \u2014 ralentir, mettre une mandoline en avant, sortir un tube de 5 minutes sans vrai refrain. Radiohead, Coldplay \u2014 ils ont tous \u00e9cout\u00e9 cet album-l\u00e0.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Et R.E.M. vont eux-m\u00eame vont prolonger cette direction avec <\/b><b><i>Automatic for the People<\/i><\/b><b> l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e suivante : encore plus sombre, encore plus orchestral. <\/b><b><i>Out of Time<\/i><\/b><b>, c&rsquo;est la porte qui s&rsquo;ouvre. La suite, c&rsquo;est le couloir.<\/b>[\/vc_column_text][\/toggle][toggle color=\u00a0\u00bbDefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb heading_tag_functionality=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb title=\u00a0\u00bbL&rsquo;univers visuel de R.E.M.\u00a0\u00bb][vc_column_text el_class=\u00a0\u00bbw1 18px\u00a0\u00bb]<b>Manu :&nbsp; La suite c\u2019est aussi avec toi Fanny (la transition de ouf) Parce qu\u2019on a parl\u00e9 du son, mais Out of Time, c&rsquo;est aussi un objet visuel. Une pochette artistique et un clip l\u00e9gendaire avec plein de refs cool, tu as d\u00fb te faire plaiz !<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Ouaaaaais j\u2019avoue que j\u2019ai bien kiff\u00e9 ! Alors pour <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Out of Time<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, R.E.M. nous offre une pochette qui est \u00e0 la fois un manifeste artistique et \u00e9cologique. Et \u00e7a, c\u2019est en grande partie gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 Michael Stipe, qui a toujours eu un pied dans les arts visuels. C\u2019est le dernier du groupe d\u2019ailleurs \u00e0 avoir abandonn\u00e9 ses \u00e9tudes d\u2019art et de photo pour se consacrer \u00e0 la musique. <\/span>Dans une biographie d\u2019REM, il d\u00e9clare avec son ironie habituelle :<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cJ\u2019\u00e9tais aussi dou\u00e9 que Manet\u2026 mais \u00e0 quoi bon un Master en peinture ? Autant faire des claquettes conceptuelles !\u201d&nbsp;<\/span><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Bon j\u2019avoue qu\u2019il semble plus dou\u00e9 derri\u00e8re un micro que muni de claquettes et pourtant\u2026 l\u2019art reste sa premi\u00e8re passion, c\u2019est d\u2019ailleurs lui pendant des ann\u00e9es qui va cr\u00e9er tous les artworks du groupe. Ici, il signe la direction artistique de la pochette, en duo avec Tom Recchion, le DA de chez Warner Bros.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu :<\/b> <b>Un manifeste \u00e9cologique tu disais. Donc l&rsquo;\u00e9cologie c&rsquo;est pas juste un th\u00e8me dans les paroles, c&rsquo;est aussi dans l&rsquo;image. D\u00e9cris-nous ce qu&rsquo;on voit sur cette pochette.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> alors, sur cette pochette on voit deux \u00e9l\u00e9ments principaux :<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">En arri\u00e8re-plan, une \u0153uvre des fr\u00e8res jumeaux Doug et Mike Starn, intitul\u00e9e <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Yellow Seascape with Film and Wood Blocks<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. C\u2019est une photo jaunie de l\u2019oc\u00e9an Pacifique, retravaill\u00e9e, tach\u00e9e, gratt\u00e9e, presque maltrait\u00e9e et recouverte de mat\u00e9riaux bruts comme du bois et du plastique. Pour les fr\u00e8res Starn, une photo n\u2019est pas juste une image, c\u2019est un objet \u00e0 trois dimensions, avec ses imperfections et ses asp\u00e9rit\u00e9s. Ici, le plastique qui recouvre l\u2019\u0153uvre \u00e9voque la pollution, comme si la mer \u00e9touffait. Un clin d\u2019\u0153il \u00e0 l\u2019urgence \u00e9cologique, un th\u00e8me d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent chez R.E.M. depuis <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Green,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> leur album pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent. Et petite info pour les amateurs d\u2019art : cette \u0153uvre des fr\u00e8res Starn fait partie de la collection permanente du Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art \u00e0 Hartford, dans le Connecticut. Si jamais vous passez par-l\u00e0, vous pourrez aller la voir !<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">L\u2019autre \u00e9l\u00e9ment cl\u00e9 de la pochette, c\u2019est un \u00e9norme logo jaune dessin\u00e9 par Ed Rogers, qui vient presque \u00e9craser l\u2019\u0153uvre des Starn. Ed Rogers c\u2019est un artiste qui a pass\u00e9 la majorit\u00e9 de sa vie dans des institutions psychiatriques. Il fait partie de ce courant appel\u00e9 \u2018art brut\u2019 \u2014 qui r\u00e9unit les cr\u00e9ations des artistes autodidactes, des marginaux ou des fous.&nbsp; R.E.M. d\u00e9couvre le travail d\u2019Ed Rogers gr\u00e2ce au fanzine <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Duplex Planet<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, et ils d\u00e9cident de le charger pour <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Out of Time <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;de calligraphier \u00e0 la main le titre de l\u2019album et les noms des morceaux, qui apparaissent \u00e0 la fin du livret comme des graffitis fragiles, un peu na\u00effs et touchants.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Le nom du groupe et le titre de l\u2019album apparaissent sur la pochette en Franklin Gothic. Franklin Gothic c\u2019est LA police d\u2019\u00e9criture am\u00e9ricaine par excellence. On la retrouve par exemple sur le logo et les publications du MoMA, au cin\u00e9ma dans Rocky, dans le g\u00e9n\u00e9rique de Star Wars et jusque sur les affiches de \u201cWar is over\u201d de John Lennon et Yoko Ono !<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu :<\/b> <b>Donc si je r\u00e9sume : une photo d&rsquo;oc\u00e9an en train d&rsquo;\u00e9touffer, un logo art brut et une typo du MoMA. C&rsquo;est plus un album, c\u2019est un vernissage cette pochette. Et quand on ouvre le livret, \u00e7a continue dans le m\u00eame d\u00e9lire ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Quand on feuillette ce livret, on retrouve partout ce m\u00e9lange d\u2019art engag\u00e9 et de folie douce, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 un patchwork d\u2019images tr\u00e8s arty avec des cases de BD sign\u00e9es Ben Katchor, qui abordent des sujets aussi WTF que la conservation des b\u00e2timents ou\u2026 les films pornos !<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu :<\/b> <b>Kamoulox&#8230;<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> J\u2019te le fais pas dire ! Y\u2019a aussi la photo du cul d\u2019un chien et une sorte de pruneau magique devant un champ de p\u00e2querettes, des photos de plantes sign\u00e9es Doug et Mike Starn, toujours dans cette veine \u00e9cologique ; plus un portrait du groupe dans un champ, comme pour rappeler leur attachement \u00e0 la nature.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Cerise sur le g\u00e2teau, quand on retourne le CD, \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 de la liste des chansons on d\u00e9couvre un appel au don pour l\u2019ONG <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Earth Communications Office<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, qui collabore avec les industries du divertissement pour cr\u00e9er des messages engag\u00e9s en faveur de l\u2019environnement. Une fa\u00e7on pour R.E.M. de rappeler que l\u2019art et l\u2019engagement peuvent \u2013 et doivent \u2013 aller de pair. Et rien que pour \u00e7a je leur dis bravo !<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu :<\/b> <b>Moi aussi je leur dis bravo. Maintenant je te propose qu\u2019on passe au clip de \u201cLosing my religion\u201d. Pour ceux qui l&rsquo;ont pas vu depuis 20 ans : allez le revoir, c&rsquo;est toujours aussi beau.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>INSERT \u2014 clip Losing my religion<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Alors pour commencer, faut s\u2019imaginer un Michael Stipe toujours tr\u00e8s impliqu\u00e9 dans l\u2019image du groupe. Peu de temps avant, il avait eu un choc en d\u00e9couvrant le clip de <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nothing Compares 2 U<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> de Sin\u00e9ad O\u2019Connor \u2013 avec son plan fixe ultra intense sur le visage de Sinead. Mais Tarsem Singh, le jeune r\u00e9alisateur embauch\u00e9 pour l\u2019occasion, lui, avait une autre id\u00e9e : <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00ab Filmons \u00e7a comme un film indien, o\u00f9 tout est m\u00e9lodramatique et onirique. \u00bb<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> R\u00e9sultat ? Un compromis g\u00e9nial entre leurs deux visions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Le clip s\u2019ouvre dans une pi\u00e8ce sombre, avec de l\u2019eau qui goutte d\u2019une fen\u00eatre \u2013 une r\u00e9f\u00e9rence directe au film <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Le Sacrifice<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> d\u2019Andrei Tarkovski. Cet int\u00e9rieur en bois d\u00e9pouill\u00e9 dans lequel on voit les membres du groupe \u00e9voluer fait penser \u00e0 un d\u00e9cor de th\u00e9\u00e2tre.&nbsp; On n\u2019est pas dans le r\u00e9alisme, au contraire tout est stylis\u00e9, comme une s\u00e9rie de tableaux vivants. Des tableaux qui parlent de religion, principalement, alors que la chanson ne traite absolument pas de ce sujet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu :<\/b> <b>Mais attends\u2026 si la chanson ne parle pas de religion, pourquoi tout ce d\u00e9lire mystique dans le clip ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Ces r\u00e9f\u00e9rences religieuses elles sont assum\u00e9es mais totalement d\u00e9tourn\u00e9es aussi, selon des codes queer avec une bonne dose d\u2019homo\u00e9rotisme, ce qui vaudra au clip de se faire censurer en Irlande. Je vous disais tout \u00e0 l\u2019heure que Tarsem Singh voulait reprendre l\u2019esth\u00e9tique ultra kitsch de Bollywood, mais finalement dans une interview qu\u2019il donne \u00e0 Rolling Stone en 2016, il r\u00e9v\u00e8le les v\u00e9ritables inspirations derri\u00e8re ces sc\u00e8nes religieuses :<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00ab Il y a une nouvelle de Gabriel Garcia Marquez intitul\u00e9e \u00ab <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Un monsieur tr\u00e8s vieux avec des ailes immenses <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00bb dans laquelle un ange bizarre d\u00e9barque sur Terre et personne ne sait vraiment quoi faire de lui. C&rsquo;est donc cette histoire, racont\u00e9e de mani\u00e8re abstraite dans le style de Pierre et Gilles, ces 2 photographes gays embl\u00e9matiques qui s&rsquo;inspirent de la mani\u00e8re dont les Indiens repr\u00e9sentent leurs divinit\u00e9s pour montrer des dieux occidentaux. J&rsquo;ai pens\u00e9 qu&rsquo;il serait int\u00e9ressant qu&rsquo;un Indien copie deux Fran\u00e7ais qui copient des \u0153uvres indiennes. \u00bb<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> Franchement, c\u2019est culott\u00e9 ! Dans ce clip, Tarsem Singh alterne donc entre des sc\u00e8nes c\u00e9lestes inspir\u00e9es de Pierre et Gilles nous montrant par exemple un ange noir aux cheveux platine ou des dieux hindous. Il y a m\u00eame une sc\u00e8ne o\u00f9 un Saint S\u00e9bastien transperc\u00e9 de fl\u00e8ches appara\u00eet, lascif et androgyne \u2013 un clin d\u2019\u0153il au r\u00e9alisateur anglais Derek Jarman, qui adorait m\u00e9langer le sacr\u00e9 et le subversif. Puis on voit des sc\u00e8nes terrestres avec des personnages caricaturaux inspir\u00e9s de Garcia Marquez, du Caravage et d\u2019affiches de propagande sovi\u00e9tique <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">; <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">et enfin les plans minimalistes avec REM ou bien Stipe, seul dans cette cabane en bois, comme entre deux mondes. Il chante et danse de mani\u00e8re maladroite, prenant exemple apparemment sur des prestations sc\u00e9niques de Sinead O\u2019Connor et de Morrissey, comme il l\u2019admettra en 1994 dans une interview. Cette danse cheloue renforce l\u2019id\u00e9e de doute, de crise int\u00e9rieure, de perte de rep\u00e8re.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Mais le plus beau dans tout \u00e7a, c\u2019est qu\u2019il n\u2019y a rien \u00e0 comprendre. En fait ce clip c\u2019est le premier gros contrat de Tarsem Singh qui \u00e9tait \u00e9tudiant \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque. Il stressait tellement qu\u2019il allait gerber entre les prises<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">..<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Le pauvre petit chat !&nbsp; C\u2019est bien la preuve que m\u00eame les chefs-d\u2019\u0153uvre naissent dans la panique !<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Et malgr\u00e9 tout \u00e7a (le malaise, le vomito entre les prises) \u00e7a donne quoi \u00e0 l&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e ?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fanny :<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> un \u00e9norme carton ! 6 r\u00e9compenses aux MTV Video Music Awards en 1991, dont <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Clip de l\u2019ann\u00e9e<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> et <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meilleure r\u00e9alisation<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. 2 r\u00e9compenses l\u2019ann\u00e9e suivante aux Grammy Awards, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meilleur Clip<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> et <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meilleure Performance Pop<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">. Et en 2020, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Losing My Religion<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> est devenu le premier clip de R.E.M. \u00e0 d\u00e9passer le milliard de vues sur YouTube. Pas mal pour une chanson qui parle de doute et de perte de foi, non ?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Et pour finir ce que je trouve ouf aujourd\u2019hui, en 2026, c\u2019est que les th\u00e8mes abord\u00e9s par cette pochette et ce clip r\u00e9sonnent encore : les questions de foi et d\u2019environnement, la qu\u00eate de sens sont plus br\u00fblantes que jamais. Je sais pas si c\u2019est eux qui \u00e9taient visionnaires ou si c\u2019est juste que l\u2019humain ne progresse jamais. Enfin j\u2019ai ma petite id\u00e9e mais je voudrais pas plomber l\u2019ambiance ! haha<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Manu : Merci Fanny ! Et t&rsquo;as raison : en 91, R.E.M. posait d\u00e9j\u00e0 les questions qu&rsquo;on se pose encore aujourd&rsquo;hui. Visionnaires ou pessimistes, on ne tranchera pas ! \ud83d\ude42<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Fun fact : La chanson fut diffus\u00e9e \u00e0 deux reprises dans la s\u00e9rie <\/b><b><i>Beverly Hills 90210<\/i><\/b><b>. La premi\u00e8re fois dans <\/b><b><i>Affaires de c\u0153ur<\/i><\/b><b> (\u00e9pisode 1, saison 2, 1991), lors de la s\u00e9quence de la rupture entre <\/b><b>Brenda<\/b><b> et Dylan. La deuxi\u00e8me, dans <\/b><b><i>Autorit\u00e9 parentale<\/i><\/b><b> (\u00e9pisode 20, saison 3, 1993), lorsque Brenda l&rsquo;\u00e9coute en boucle au moment de sa seconde rupture avec Dylan. <\/b><b><br \/>\n<\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/rR6aHG1gPFI?si=lPRstz9Y4813tFsM&amp;t=92\"><b>https:\/\/youtu.be\/rR6aHG1gPFI?si=lPRstz9Y4813tFsM&amp;t=92<\/b><\/a> <b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>En attendant, voil\u00e0 la story de Out of Time ! Un album \u00ab\u00a0hors du temps\u00a0\u00bb qui a propuls\u00e9 quatre mecs de G\u00e9orgie au sommet des charts mondiaux avec une mandoline. 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